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Noise, noise and more noise
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How can that be?
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He did fall into the mine-is-different trap
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Good luck, Meow
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Sanctimonious twaddle
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Noise, noise and more noise
Dear Sir,
Please, through your good offices, and publication, may I bring to the
notice of the relevant authority, the noise pollution in and around Pattaya.
In particular Soi Buakhao.
Recently all media gave considerable coverage, including yourselves, to the
clamp down by the authorities, on noisy and illegal entertainment venues.
Despite this, how is it possible that some still appear to thumb their noses
at all regulation?
Along Soi Buakhao, and very near a large estate, and a hotel, accommodating
hundreds of residents and visitors, the noise nightly is excessive and
unacceptable. The decibel output negates any chance of a rest full night
sleep, and it goes on all night, yes, all night!, frequently until 8 a.m.
and in the open, with no containment whatsoever. Alcohol is readily
available, boisterous behavior usual, sometimes catering for as few as 8,
whilst 800 plus are kept sleepless. When most other venues are closing and
abiding by the rules, these places are starting up.
It is neither fair nor reasonable.
Hopefully you can help, and thank you in advance.
Kittachai
How can that be?
Editor;
In regard to the recent old hotel ‘overhang’ collapse next to Central
Festival, it was stated that, “owner unknown”. How can that be? Every
business must have a license and be registered in this city. Does the job
description of the city management just read, ‘show up to work’ and it all
ends there? What do they do all day at work, shuffle papers from one pile to
the next to look busy? Maddening, the things that are allowed to go on in
this country. OK, I know that I may be labeled as a complainer, but after 10
years here and as a big contributor to Thai society, I feel I have a right
to rant a bit and not to be told to go back home! And to you out there who
never complain, take off your blinders and remember the ‘squeaky wheel’ does
get oiled. Tum dii, dai dii!
Don Ward
He did fall into the
mine-is-different trap
Editor,
The Fin guy having had his personal appeal doubted, one can understand his
pique (7th Nov). But he did fall into the mine-is-different trap. If his
other half is different, he would do better not to boast. A Burnley boyyo
who appears to think that Thailandâ•™s best is Songkran in Pattaya, and who
not just expounds on the class of Thai ladies but says he found a classy one
who would have found him irresistible without the house he bought her, is
always going to draw smirks. Then there is what he means by middle-class.
For many Westerners, it merely means a girl did not work in a bar (to his
knowledge). Unless a Westerner is actually working with Thais, he is
unlikely to even meet middle-class Thai women. Ego means that few men are as
willing to be as truthful as John Arnone was a few weeks ago.
Some time ago, I was fortunate to get a copy of a report by a Sarah Wilde
PhD. The following is an extract from the Pattaya section of ╘Thailand:
Cross-racial Relationships and Commercial Socialityâ•™:
â•œThe Thai resort of Pattaya is arguably the best place in the world to
research the effect of commercial sociality on a community. The system
tolerated there allows social and physical intercourse to proceed with a
degree of dignity for both worker and clientele, latter comprising a mix of
nationality and status (financial & social) of men that will always create
demand, even need for a sex trade. Street-walkers and low-level dens exist,
but one could describe the sociality in many bars as ╘normal╙. Most
Western men experiencing the scene would say it is vastly better than
sociality at home...
â•œAn anomaly with the Pattaya scene is that with little experience of the
sex trade and often women generally, many Western men telegraph desperation
and have created in many Thai women a mindset that the men are what are
euphemistically called ╘walking ATMs or wallets╙... In a big percentage
of Thai woman and Western man unions, the woman is more a rented ╘carer╙
than wife (perhaps not so different than it used to be in the UK but
rent-free). A big difference is that few types of pairing, short or long
term, can be so widely bereft of romance, and the absence extends beyond the
bar scene. After being ╘bought╙ with a dowry, this often a house for the
womanâ•™s family to feign high society status in a village, some of the
women will be loyal unless the man errs... Snobbery is integral... even sex
workers who are not from the Isaan region are quick to point out they are
not. Many Westerners would say that for all the desire for ╘good face╙
that Thais have, it often appears they have no concept of shame or
conscience, particularly where foreigners are concerned, and they regard
practical and venal as the same...â••
The report is extremely informative but too lengthy to digest in one go.
Many aspects of life here are covered and in an unbiased way that only an
outsider could see. The conclusion, incidentally, is that a legitimate sex
trade benefits a community.
Like it or not, a Thai woman / Western man union is always going to be
treated with scepticism by most people. You donâ•™t have to go far out of
Pattaya to find that many Thais regard a woman in such a relationship is a
╘mia faan╙ or ╘mia chao╙ (rented girlfriend/wife), but Thais tend
not to point the finger as vehemently as Westerners do. I suggest the best
thing for a man with a Thai partner to do is just get on with it and adopt
the Thai attitude that is its better to rent than not have at all. On the
other hand, some might say that the idea of paying a lady is so that she
leaves.
TC
Good luck, Meow
Editor;
On October 25th the entire crew of Diana-Oasis, located in Diana-Estate, Soi
Buakao, sponsored a lunch for all the children and staff at the Orphanage
Deck Cai in Banglamung. This was initiated and organized by the manageress
Michaela (Meow) for the occasion of the 2nd anniversary of the Diana-Oasis.
The project was supported by many regulars at the Oasis and we were happy to
be part of Meow’s idea and see many happy children when they enjoyed a good
meal and were handed out toys.
We, the regulars at the Oasis wish Meow and her staff a lot of happiness and
success in the future.
W.T.
Sanctimonious twaddle
Dear Mailbag,
I’ve just read the letter from John Riggs. What a load of sanctimonious
twaddle.
Are you suggesting that education has any bearing on whether a wife loves or
is faithful to her husband? How can you possibly think that speaking Bangkok
Thai rather than the many other dialects has any bearing on how successful a
marriage is?
If you think that the British ambassador to Thailand has any input as to who
gets a visa you are living on cloud cuckoo land. During the period you
mentioned, my cousin Miss Jean Sharp held the post of British consul and
even she had no power over the visa section. This is a separate entity.
My wife and I have been together for over 5 years. She never went to school
in Thailand but she has tried really hard to learn English. She has passed
ESOL exam and is now progressing further. She works full time in a hotel.
My wife has a small circle of friends, all the same as her, workers, in what
seem to be happy marriages.
She occasionally meets new Thai ladies. Some become friends, others she
rejects. When I ask why, she says “she bad lady. She want me go Casino,” or,
“She say why you go work when you got farang?”
A successful marriage has nothing to do with race, education or age, it’s
whether you love each other, trust and respect each other.
Bob Grimshaw
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