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It’s simple, common
courtesy
Sir,
It should be easy to clear up the argument about
smoking vs. non-smoking.
First, smokers have the right to smoke. That’s fairly
self-evident. We can all agree that it’s not an unlimited right (you
can’t smoke in an area where open containers of flammable liquid is
stored, for example), but it is a right. If smokers choose to smoke, it is
not my place to tell them that they can’t. True, it’s a health hazard,
but it’s their own health they’re risking. And they have a right to do
so.
However, let’s talk about what right smokers DON’T
have. They don’t have the right to force other people to smoke against
their wills. Ever! One of the reasons that so much friction exists in this
issue is personified by Captain Jens Ronning’s statement saying that
non-smokers should “stay away from this smoking oasis”.
Sir: Thailand isn’t a “smoking oasis”. Your
contention that smokers normally obey the rules is quite silly. Walk
through the Royal Garden mall any day and you’ll see lots of people
smoking in direct defiance of no-smoking signs. One reason that there is
such friction is that smokers (for the most part) ignore no-smoking signs
unless someone with authority forces them to obey. And I note that in
Thailand, 90% of the smokers I see violating the rules are farangs, not
Thai.
But let’s put the issue in its simplest terms. It’s
an issue of courtesy. Any time a smoker decides to light up in the
presence of other people, he should check with those people and make sure
it’s all right with them. If it’s not, he doesn’t smoke. That’s
simple, common courtesy. Laws like those in California only come into
existence because smokers refuse to follow rules of common courtesy.
Smokers: Smoke ‘em if you got ‘em. But not in a
place or in a manner where you force other people to smoke with you. If
you’ll follow that simple rule of common courtesy, there will NEVER be
any laws restricting you. But if you don’t, the laws are inevitable.
Your choice.
John Nielson
More answers to
20 questions
Dear Editor,
I have just returned from a twenty-two day holiday in
the Beloved Kingdom. It was my thirty-first visit; my first was in 1989. I
have much to say, but will offer just a few answers to Mr. Mac-Foggert’s
query - “20 Questions”.
The answer for many of your questions is simple; money.
Your experiences must have led you to relationships in which money is the
lynchpin of communication. Where it does not exist, you seemingly do not
either, or so your comments would lead me to believe. Why do so many
losers travel to Thailand? I can only guess; do tell Mr. Mac-Foggert.
...Buddhist Culture. Embrace it to understand it, Sir.
...”Up to you” is generally used in lieu of genuine thoughts because
your behaviour has demonstrated selfishness. The Thai people are probably
wondering, “Why is he asking me this question when he doesn’t care
about what I want, he obviously has his mind set on something already.”
And as for the shopkeepers being dense...why do Farangs insist on
communicating in their own method, their own language and in the very
least in their own style, by waving their arms and shouting. Really! It is
an embarrassment. The Thais are quite sharp and can discern your meaning
if you speak gently and directly to them. Mr. Mac-Foggert, do you speak
the language of your guests when they are visiting the UK? How is it that
you have come to love Thailand? You sound much like many a tourist who
comes only to exploit the Thai people and push your way around with your
money and imperial attitude! You don’t love Thailand and you are angry
about these 20 things which somehow reduce your power and control over
these good people. Shame on you. Why don’t you gain situational
awareness and learn something of the Buddhist Culture? It is my genuine
experience to have met my most genuine and generous friends and lovers in
Thai People.
Very Respectfully,
Jim Hervey
Not liking any
local ISP
Editor;
You’ve had lots of mail to the Computer Doctor
concerning ISP’s and quality. Perhaps you’d like to help everyone by
taking a little vote from those who’ve sampled several of the locally
available ISP’s. For my contribution to such a vote; I have used all 3
main ISP’s in Chonburi & Rayong. The results? All are awful!
I’ve worked in several third world countries, and
Thailand comes bottom for quality of service. The best of the weak line-up
is Loxinfo. It is by far the quickest, so long as you use the local 56K
number (238000).
Trailing by a long way comes KSC. If you’re an
English speaker avoid this one like the plague; not only is the line slow
but the support is virtually non existent. I also had a query over the
billing from KSC, they had continued the service after I had cancelled it
and expected me to pay them. They also seemed to have more hours shown on
their bill than I had used. I am sure there is nothing crooked going on,
as KSC are as honest as their owner (the same chap who owns that big
school in the area).
The slowest is the cheapest per hour, CS Internet. If
you can actually get a connection with this ISP (the phone often fails to
pick-up) you will normally find blistering rates of less than 0.3k/s when
trying to download anything. As the service is so slow CS Internet
actually becomes the most expensive, as it can take five times as long (or
more) to download anything.
The quality of support is another issue. CS Internet do
not speak English, few in KSC do, and Loxinfo is hardly better and will
normally pass you around until someone is found who can string a sentence
together, or you get fed up and put the phone down. Should you be able to
communicate in Thai (my wife is Thai) you will find the quality of advice
deplorable. Loxinfo comes bottom of this list. The operators have little
understanding of computers or TCP/IP settings; I believe they have a book
in front of them and labouriously work through it to find an answer
(typically the wrong answer).
The main problem when I have contacted support has been
the non-existence of service; I check to see if they are actually on line.
I am always told everything is working perfectly, and that it must be the
telephone lines. Whilst the local lines need improving this is a false
claim. If I can connect to one ISP but not another, then the one which
won’t connect is surely to blame, not the telephone lines. Sometimes my
line to Loxinfo has been very slow, so I’ve switched to KSC or CS
Internet, and found KSC working faster. Again, quality of telephone lines
will not account for this difference.
In summary, if you are looking for an ISP, grit your
teeth, and expect long downloading and unhelpful staff. Anyone else had
similar experiences?
Steadily Yours,
Slow Surfer
Round the world
in 60 days
Dear Sir,
Re: The America’s Cup. Prior to WW2 this was
unsuccessfully competed for by Sir Thomas Lipton, the British Tea
Millionaire, on several occasions with his famous Shamrock series of
boats, but never won. However, in those days the challenger had to be
capable of crossing the Atlantic under its own power (sail), fully manned
and of course victualled for the voyage, whereas the defender could be
constructed as a pure day racing yacht, to its advantage.
Only in the late seventies was the ‘Cup open to
international competition rather than only the US/UK.
On other yachting matters, later this year there is to
be a Round The World race to challenge the fastest RTW time yet of about
72 days. The ‘Race’ is to be a head to head sprint non-stop round the
world for huge cash prizes, and record circumnavigations in the order of
60 days are anticipated by the contenders, these being purpose built 120
foot catamarans!
This should be quite some race as no-one has yet had
any significant sailing experience with 120 foot Cats. However, some
answers will be known in the Jules Verne Trophy Race early his year.
Speaking of big yachts, one of the world’s largest
super-yachts is to be launched next month by Yantai Raffles shipyard,
Yantai PRC. This is an 88 metre steel vessel based on a Polynesian
outrigger canoe design, with an overall beam of 42 metres to the 21.2
metre outrigger. Powered by a single 2,000 HP Caterpillar diesel it will
have a range of over 10,000 miles at 10.0 knots. It also has a 600 HP
bowthruster, which alone can be used to propel it at 7.0 knots.
It has superbly appointed accommodation for 22 guests
and is manned by a crew of 18.
Sinbad
Time to police
Soi Yamoto?
Editor;
I have lived in Pattaya for nearly 2 years, and since
living here I have never missed one week of getting a copy of your paper.
For me it is a great paper, and I can hardly wait for the next edition.
Keep up the good work.
I am a Scot, and I have a 50% share in a bar in Soi
Yamoto. My question is about road safety.
As you possibly know, Soi Yamoto is a one way street,
but it is used as either end is accessible. Not only that, the drivers (Falang
& Thai) wheel up and down, and I am sure there will be a fatality or
at least a serious accident one day. I have done a little research, and
Soi 11 has bumps in the road (sleeping policemen?), but little or no
traffic. I think it would be worth thinking about to have something
similar in Soi Yamoto.
Another point I cannot understand and is, why do large
buses come down Soi Yamato from Second Road to Beach Road. I honestly do
not see the reason.
I have written to you on behalf of residents in Soi
Yamoto hoping for some kind of action on the above matters. Maybe pass on
to someone who deals with such things.
Thanking you in advance on behalf of the residents.
Yours faithfully,
Ray Gaitnie
Thank you Leslie
Wright
Dear Editor,
I would like to thank Mr Leslie Wright for an extremely
prompt reply to an E-mail question I put to him.
Although he could not answer my question as it was not
in his area of expertise, he still replied to my inquiry within 24 hours.
This kind of service is not equaled in many businesses today.
Thank you Mr Wright,
Mike
Gun-shy
politicians
Editor;
Thailand, often at great expense, seeks and often gets
world wide attention for many stunts and feats of dubious distinction such
as tom yum soup, the most sky divers, etc. Thailand also won bragging
rights for the largest number of Mercedes owners, not highly touted or
advertised was the fact Thailand now holds the record for the most
Mercedes cars repossessed during the economic downturn.
Now Thailand is working rapidly on yet another
world’s record. Since local and national elections are coming up
throughout the Kingdom, I predict Thailand will hold the record worldwide
for the “Most politicians currently in office and aspiring candidates
wearing or owning bullet proof vests.”
Signed
Simply Amazed
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