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Who has to pay for the sins of the fathers

Send Xmas cards all at once

The demise of Pattaya

Closing times

Archaic 2 a.m. closing

Shocking blow to tourism

Will not be deterred

Disappointed with reactions to theft

Drugs, guns and baht bus drivers are a bad mix

Who has to pay for the sins of the fathers

Sir,

“No one condones what occurred in New York and Washington but for some it is not entirely inexplicable.” So a Bangkok Post editorial accurately told us one day this week. It seems this is not understood by some. T. Faulds (‘Hit the buildings, missed America’ Mailbag 28/9/01) is one it seems. Just what is it that makes some people think their own patriotic litany has more substance than that of people from a different country or with different ideals? Mr Faulds clearly doesn’t realise there are some who find the rhetoric as to what America was built on and stands for rather tedious and hollow-sounding. The indigenous population of the continent at very least, those that remain such was the extent of the genocide against them in the not-too-distant past, surely have a good case for so believing. The type of ‘hawks’ who would lash out principally to soothe their wounded pride were responsible for Wounded Knee.

“The world’s worst terrorist atrocity” one newscaster called the WTC and Pentagon attack. Those who know a little of the recent history of this region might disagree with that statement too and one American in particular. Not many of his countrymen care to recall if indeed they ever absorbed it in the first place, the clandestine bombing of Cambodia. On 14th April 2000 The Bangkok Post printed an article by this American and who told how for thirty years he suffered a recurring nightmare of riding one of the bombs he loaded onto a plane and as it plummeted earthwards to blow entirely innocent women and children to smithereens. He also told how the most intensive bombing the world has ever seen is not referred to in American school history books.

In Oklahoma City didn’t Timothy McVeigh believe he was exacting retribution on behalf of fellow countrymen terrorised and murdered merely for doing their own thing? He was home grown of course and learned the term ‘collateral damage’ from the very American Force he apparently served well. Any wonder there is difficulty in some quarters defining the word ‘terrorism’? One can bet the legal repercussions of various governments’ self-implication is proving the obstacle.

Fortunately not all Americans are blind to the fact that so being does not exclude them from sometimes being at fault. On Larry King’s show this week Naomi Judge, a fine person as well as singer, suggested the country should not be attempting to get back to normal. ‘Normal’ she told viewers has for too long for too many Americans been playing the smug fat-cat.

Clearly there are at least some who recognise the need to see themselves as others see them and not merely how they self-righteously wish to or believe they should be seen. That no people are better or worth more or hurt more because of where they were born or live. There will undoubtedly remain those who refuse to learn that seeds of hate which are sown will surely one day be reaped in one form or another. Isn’t ‘there are no free rides’ an Americanism? ‘God bless America’ most certainly is. Perhaps those who cannot comprehend why the events of September 11th occurred should refer to the bible that is acclaimed as the backbone of ‘god-fearing’ American society. I would point them to Exodus chapter 20. If my memory serves me correctly it is verse 5 that tells who has to pay for the sins of the fathers.

T. Crossley

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Send Xmas cards all at once

To “Confused of Naklua”,

If you want to ensure prompt delivery of your Christmas cards, put them all together in one envelope and send to a friend in UK via DHL at Laem Chabang. They can be reposted individually second class within the UK. If you are sending dozens the total cost could well be less than using the Thai “Snail Post” anyway,

Best regards,

Keith B. Bradbury

Sunny Southport

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The demise of Pattaya

Dear Editor,

I have read many of the letters regarding the recent early closing of bars and nightclubs in Pattaya. I have just recently returned from 2 weeks in Pattaya and I was shocked to see how quiet it was.

The supposed police crackdown must surely be having a bad effect on business. Many people I spoke to have said this will lead to the demise of Pattaya. Many speak of going elsewhere for there holidays.

I have also noticed that many nightclubs are charging the customers very high prices for drinks. Pattaya was once a very reasonably priced place, but now it has become a very expensive destination for the farang.

I hope Pattaya and the authorities can come to their senses and get back to how it was. Closing bars and nightclubs will not rid the place of drugs and vice.

Graham

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Closing times

Editor;

I have been a keen reader of the Pattaya Mail for five years now and have learned allot about Pattaya in those years. I have been to Pattaya twelve times and the only reason I keep coming back is you can go out and have a drink and go shopping 24 hours.

I come from England so this is a real treat for me and many of my comrades who come two, three times a year. We will all be there at Christmas and we have all said so sadly that if the bars are closing at 2 a.m. we will not return till the government gets their heads sorted out.

PS sad Deano & friends from Sunderland who love the drink

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Archaic 2 a.m. closing

Dear Sir,

I was amazed to read that the new ruling on licensing hours includes a 2 a.m. closure. Here in England we are known for our archaic licensing laws in comparison to our European neighbours. That is why everyone departs for foreign soil for their annual holiday, not only to get away from our atrocious weather but to enjoy the opportunity to buy an alcoholic drink when one wants one. In my home city they are now considering longer licensing hours to entice the tourists to keep coming.

Recently, with the terrorist attacks in USA, people are more apprehensive about flying and the prospect of arriving at Pattaya and then not being able to drink when one wants to will surely have an adverse effect on the number of visitors.

Bob Burrows

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Shocking blow to tourism

Dear Pattaya Mail,

Well, its that time of year again, when there have been so many terrible things that have happened in the world recently, many of us (who are fortunate enough to do so) are counting the days down to our annual or bi annual visit to Thailand. But this time I understand things will be a little ‘different”. For a start, many of my friends that are always in Thailand at this time have cancelled, not because of the atrocities in America, but because they feel this time the Thai government have got it very wrong.

Over the years we have seen many changes to the faces of Thailand, and speaking for myself and my friends have agreed with the clamping down on problems such as child sex tourism, but come on! 2 a.m. closing? We can enjoy ourselves for longer in England! I agree wholeheartedly with the letter in last Friday’s edition, saying that by closing the bars at 2 a.m., you will not stop drug abuse or underage drinking, what you will stop is the tourist pound. People are already looking for other holiday destinations where the governments welcome the foreign currency, and not drive people away. This time you really have hit the tourist industry a shocking blow that will cost Thailand dearly.

Glen From England

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Will not be deterred

To the Editor:

I just finished looking through the current batch of letters in the Pattaya Mail. Tourism world-wide is suffering a major decline since the recent terrorist attacks on us here in the United States. I just wanted to take a moment and let you know that I am not to be deterred or scared off by these disgusting and tragic events. Hotel reservations are and have been in place since late spring for myself and some friends. Pattaya was very kind to me this past March and I look forward to my return this coming February with a couple of friends. We will do all we can to help bolster tourism in the LOS and I look forward to returning and seeing some old friends and making some new ones also. The people of Thailand have proven they are among the most friendly folks in the world and I anxiously await my trip.

Till next we meet,

Jim Gilmore

Vallejo, California

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Disappointed with reactions to theft

The Editor,

In September this year I visited Pattaya for the third time. I have always found the people particularly friendly and I love Thailand.

However, on this visit I had a mobile phone, gold bracelet, a cigarette lighter and Leatherman mini tool stolen from my room. I reported this to both the hotel manager and my travel representative. Both laid the blame firmly on “guests” that I had staying in my room. I can understand this stance from the hotel but I thought my travel representative would have been more sympathetic.

On the day that I reported the theft to the police, I discovered that 2 hours earlier another guest at the hotel had reported the theft of a video camera and watch from his room. Over the period of the next 2 weeks there were a further 2 thefts of which I am aware. A friend lost an antique gold watch and an English couple had a camera stolen from their room. I am led to believe that all the injured parties had travelled with the same travel agent.

The general feeling would appear to be that as I had a police report I could claim for the stolen items from my insurance. Whilst this may be true I feel that more should have been done to try and catch those responsible. I found their “matter of fact” attitude very disappointing. I have every intention of returning to Pattaya in the near future and would love to stay at the same hotel, but this encounter is making me have second thoughts.

Billy Beattie

Northern Ireland

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Drugs, guns and baht bus drivers are a bad mix

Dear Editor,

The recent arrest of a baht bus driver for possessing illegal weapons is very discomforting. Furthermore, police suspect the driver was dealing drugs. It is unbelievable to see how little safety care is put into the existing public transport system. It is simply ridiculous. Not only are passengers in danger whilst being chauffeured by a drugged baht bus driver (many dealers are users themselves), but this also endangers other vehicles and pedestrians on the streets.

The recent urine sample tests on baht bus drivers were said to be “a cause of concern”. In my opinion it is of utter importance to sort out this problem very soon.

An alternative public transport method would be very welcome (other than the risky motorcycle taxis). If this is not possible in the near future, stricter regulations on baht bus drivers should be applied immediately. Such regulations should include the application of a [real] baht bus license, urine tests before start of work and afterwards, frequent courses and tests on driving skills, etc. The condition of some of the vehicles being used as baht busses is also appalling. On some occasions I even refuse to get on them and opt to wait for a better one.

I have read enthusiastically your reporting on implementing a real bus system on Pattaya roads since it was first suggested a few years back. However, nothing has happened. Pattaya is growing rapidly and local authorities will have no other option than to turn to a more practical transport system.

Arnie Swartz

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