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It is possible for Pattaya to change

The heart of the real problem

Is it that difficult to believe?

If the cap fits wear it

Answering the rogue “r”

It is possible for Pattaya to change

Editor,

I am happy that ‘Anton’ (Mailbag 13th July) managed to get the gist of my previous letter that B. Scott the week before was unable to. I regret that J. Macdonald also appeared not to have paid too much attention. To clarify the point, I myself have no problem with noise from the bowling green and merely commented on a letter in which someone stated the actual complainant was being petty. The complainant did actually say that he raised the matter with the bowling green management, farang I understand, but to no avail. The management’s view has in fact been noticeable by the absence of a reply to this column.

Comment upon Thai manners and attitude was never raised as an issue but in any event I rather think Mr Mac has a ‘three wise monkey’ view so far as that subject is concerned. He appears to believe that having a Thai wife qualifies him to lecture all other ‘Mail’ readers and local ex-pat residents on behavioural etiquette. Sorry Mr Mac, your very presumptuousness disqualifies you from being able to do this and very well displays your own smugness. If you knew anything about the social-order in Thailand you would realise that like my own Thai wife, to have had to settle for a farang husband means she is well down in the pecking order.

My comment about the type of visitor principally attracted to Pattaya also appears to have rattled Mr Mac. In reply to this I can only refer to the letter from ‘Rory’ (again 13th July) who in turn refers to ‘the world’s best-selling guide-book to Thailand’. Thailand cannot possibly have a more vociferous proponent of the country than the book’s author yet as Rory points out, one need look no further than the Pattaya section to see how the resort is viewed. Patting anyone and everyone on the back or ‘looking the other way’ will definitely not serve to get that view altered. Mr Mac’s rose-coloured glasses need wiping I suggest.

The ‘prevailing attitude’ here and referred to by Rory was in fact summed up in a piece of international news this week. Spain’s Balearic Islands, it was reported, are to impose a ‘green’ levy on tourists. The birth of these islands as tourist resorts actually occurred more or less at the same time as Pattaya’s. Whereas here there are hotels with only a 50% occupancy rate and less, over there hotels can’t be built fast enough and tourists are actively being discouraged from going. Someone there must have done something right!

Just in case those people who deride critical letters to this column are not aware of the fact, Pattaya is a tourist resort with aspirations of fulfilling its potential of becoming equally renowned as those Spanish resorts. To achieve this, opinion has to be canvassed and which task is admirably served by columns such as ‘Mailbag’ and the constructive contributions thereto. The difficulty alas lies in them being acted upon. Mr Mac wonders if this is possible in Thailand. I can assure him that Spain once suffered the greed and corruption that holds Thailand’s resorts back. Indeed it exists everywhere there is the promise of riches. I won’t insult Thais as Mr Mac does by suggesting it is not possible. Yes it is! It just requires recognition of shortfall whatever the source of objective criticism. An ability and willingness to learn from the mistakes of others can also be very helpful.

T. Crossley

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The heart of the real problem

Editor:

I would like to commend Mr. Wood, G.M. of the Royal Cliff Beach Resort on his comments you published in the 6 July Mailbag about UBC. While he sheds light on a big problem, I totally disagree with his call to the Tourist Industry to support UBC. Let the chips fall where they may! UBC will never be reliable, competitive, or cost efficient if it is strapped with crippling regulations, questionable overhead, and government curbs to open competition from foreign companies. If UBC fails, just maybe there will have to be some changes!

For over 7 years now, I’ve watched Thailand become less “Investment Friendly” and equally less competitive in the global economy. This year, the ranking of Thai competitiveness slipped downward by 2 positions, and the baht has dropped 18% (to the US dollar) with many indicating another 10% is needed for Thai goods to be competitive on world markets again. Until Thailand realizes that protectionism, “Thai style” management, “tea money”, and corruption is crippling all Thai industry, Thailand will continue to die the slow death of currency devaluation.

If you want investment, you have to have an investment friendly environment. An investment friendly environment requires infrastructure of which cable TV is a part, but so is telephone service, Internet connections, good roads, an educated workforce, proper business practices, appropriate trade regulations, clean tap water, and reliable electricity. All of which are expensive or something considerably less than first-rate in Thailand.

An equally important issue is corruption and the lack of law enforcement in Thailand. Western business and governments are now demanding more than just “talk” about law enforcement, specifically in the area of intellectual property. Individuals look at laws related to safe living conditions, which include insurance law, zoning, low crime, and safe driving practices.

There is more at stake than just UBC or the Tourist Industry here. International businesses are looking at a better workforce, better law enforcement, and better infrastructure in places like Singapore, Malaysia, India, etc. Without these resources, readily available throughout Thailand, international business (and the big money) will go elsewhere.

Today, it takes a lot more than just cheap labor to attract business, as it takes more than just sex to attract tourists; that Bt300 billion in foreign currency receipt industry that some seem to take for granted. Yes, UBC is second rate and getting worse, but the real dilemma is that for many it’s all there is; which is at the heart of the real problem.

Regards,

Mark

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Is it that difficult to believe?

Editor:

I’d like to thank Scott Benson for his response on 6 July to my letter of 30 June. I would, however, like to correct a couple of impressions he apparently had of my letter.

First, I am indeed a farang. I have written several letters to Pattaya Mail. When I say something positive about Thai people or this city I almost invariably am accused of being a Thai rather than a farang (as Mr. Benson did). Why is that? Is it really that difficult to believe that a farang could actually like and respect Thai people?

Mr. Benson then referred to the 200 baht National Park entrance fee as “a blatant rip-off”. He spent a lot of effort, as had a previous letter writer, denouncing this price as “outrageous”. Let me point out to Mr. Benson that 200 baht represents roughly 12 minutes salary to the average American. How is that “a blatant rip-off” or “outrageous”? Compare that with the fact that it represents roughly one *DAY*’s wage for the average Thai. As B. Scott pointed out in his letter, this is nothing to go ballistic about.

Yes, Mr. Benson, I’ve seen the Mercedes and SUVs on the highway. Do you really believe that those people represent the “average Thai”? Comparing the Mercedes owners to the average Thai is like comparing Bill Gates to you and I. Are we both billionaires just because Bill Gates is? Remember, the average Thai makes roughly the same amount in one month that the average American or Western European makes in a day. The average Thai can’t afford to ride in a Mercedes, let alone own one.

I agree with Mr. Benson that if he finds the double pricing at tourist venues offensive then the appropriate action for him is to boycott the businesses that offend him. Perhaps they will change. But he should not confuse the refusal of farangs living in Pattaya to patronize these places as a reduction in the number of tourists coming to Thailand. There is no evidence whatsoever that anyone has ever decided not to come to Thailand as a tourist because a national park charges a $4.00 entry fee (as Mr. Abbink had implied).

May I also comment that Sean Jehan’s suggestion of a token system for baht buses sounds like a great idea. This could possibly eliminate a lot of confusion and hard feelings. I don’t know if it’s practical. But it certainly sounds good.

I especially appreciate the Pattaya Mail providing a forum for people to discuss these issues.

Frequent Farang

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If the cap fits wear it

Dear Editor,

“Everyone is entitled to their opinions” J. MacDonald (issue 28) generously advises us. Wasn’t his letter a little more than that though? Didn’t he deign to preach to other residents on how to treat the local populace? In so doing doesn’t he display precisely the sort of arrogance that T. Crossley referred to in his letter and which though commenting upon Mr MacDonald appears to have paid scant attention to. May I suggest he brushes up on his ‘farang’ social-skills before attempting to come to terms with Thai ones. When visiting Pattaya from Bangkok he must also walk around with his head in the clouds. How does he think Pattaya came to have the reputation it has and which justifiably or not is overly concentrated on in western media? Does he actually believe it doesn’t attract a certain type? “For decades a world centre for sex-tourism and prostitution” Pattaya was described as by one Mailbag writer some months back. On a recent visa run a fellow passenger told me that he doesn’t tell people where he comes from where he spends his free time.

What Mr MacDonald’s letter does tell us is that like many Thais his wife and her friends suffer from the ‘if it ain’t Thai it ain’t right’ attitude referred to in ‘Rory’s letter in the same issue. Some people forget that when having been drawn to a country they become customers and as such are entitled to say what they do and don’t like. Shrewd business people of the country take heed. The also rans don’t. A couple of sayings that might be appropriate for Mr MacDonald to teach his wife and friends when next reading out critical comment being made in letters are ‘if the cap fits wear it’ and ‘you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink’. Unlikely as it may be they just might grasp the meanings.

Jonas

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Answering the rogue “r”

Dear Sir,

The letters from Andrew Drummond and Oliver Minto, in the current Mail, gave me a lot of pleasure, especially to show me that I have some readers of ‘Down the Iron Road’! My typing is capable of almost anything other than accuracy, but I could hardly believe that even I could not only perpetuate such an error but repeat so hated a name over and over again. I knew the name ‘Marples’ equally well, and as no one has claimed the mistake here I will accept it, with all good grace.

Andrew Drummond must approach the editor as to his question of a re-run; somehow I think it is unlikely to be possible.

I have a suspicion that Oliver Minto is known to me from some time back; I assure him that although I strive for 100% accuracy, I don’t always achieve it! Would that I did! But four years of editing the ‘Journal’ of the Stephenson Locomotive Society back home taught me many things, caution being one. If Oliver is still a resident of Pattaya, he may care to contact me at the P.O. Box that has for some time appeared at the head of my articles so that we can have a get-together. Too few people in Pattaya will talk about trains!

As to my retirement mentioned by the editor, this was something I feared following a fall which left me in some pain, unable to sit at a typewriter, and not thinking very straight. I’m no chicken and how long this would last I couldn’t guess, but things are slowly clearing, and I have told the Mail that I am willing to continue my contributions as long as I can, if not at the same frequency. If they agree, the next piece will be about the extension of the French high-speed line to Marseille, bringing that port within three hours of Paris, and five hours of London.

With best wishes and thanks,

John D. Blyth

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